KENAN MALIK Imagine. A hot sunny day. A shimmering
breeze. The scent of bougainvillea wafting across the olive groves. But this
is not the French Riviera, it's the Swiss Alps.
JOSE ROMERO We are in the suburbs of Bern, some
thirty kilometres in the northern part of the Alps at an altitude of four
hundred metres above the sea level. The Alpine region where Switzerland is
located is rather sensitive to global warming.
KENAN MALIK Jose Romero, chief advisor to the
Swiss government on climate change.
JOSE ROMERO We may expect radical change given
the fact that snow will be scarce. The third component of the Swiss gross
domestic product is tourism, and in particular Alpine tourism, so if we have
less snow there will be a need for adapting to the new conditions. Maybe there
is an opportunity there to have further expansion of tourism. We may define
new activities for winter tourism, for example - to replace snow activities
with other activities.
KENAN MALIK In fifty years time, as the snows
melt in the Alps and the Mediterranean coast becomes too hot, Switzerland
may well become the new Provence - and the Swiss are already preparing for
this. For years politicians have been urging us to change our lifestyles to
slow down global warming. Now many are coming to see such warming as inevitable.
And not just the Swiss. Publicly, the message from the British government
is that we all have to do more to reduce our carbon footprints - turn down
the heating, say no to plastic bags, think again about that cheap foreign
holiday, and recycle, recycle, recycle. Privately, though, there seems to
be a growing acceptance that such exhortations may not be enough.
JOAN RUDDOCK I'm sure we have to do something
now, otherwise we are all doomed, but that is not a message that I think any
of us want to give to the public. What we want to give to the public is very
much it is extremely important that we take action now. Even if we were to
end all our emissions today, we've still got thirty to forty years of temperature
rises and probably a hundred years of sea level rises built in, so adaptation
has now become as important to us as mitigation.
KENAN MALIK Joan Ruddock, Britain's Minister
for Climate Change. Mitigation and adaptation. Two words we’re going
to have to get used to. For they're at the heart of the latest battle over
climate change. Over the past few years the key debate has been about the
science - is the world really hotting up and, if so, are humans responsible?
There's still a minority of sceptics who question the idea of man-made global
warming. The consensus, though, is that the earth is getting warmer - and
that humans have helped turn up the thermostat.
The new debate that's splitting scientists, economists and politicians is
not about whether the world is getting hotter but about how we should respond.
And that's the debate we'll be exploring in this week's Analysis.
The key question is whether we should pour all our resources into mitigation
- reducing our carbon emissions. Or whether we should accept that the world
is going to get warmer anyway. Rather than worry too much about emissions,
should we adapt to global warming by building better flood defences and developing
drought-resistant crops? For many Greens, shifting the debate from mitigation
to adaptation is tantamount to treason. The biologist Tim Flannery, author
of The Weather Makers and voted Australian of the Year for his campaigning
on climate change.
TIM FLANNERY To me that shift represents a little
bit of you know Chamberlain with the white paper in 1938: it's giving into
what is undoubtedly a big and formidable issue, but giving in in I think a
fundamentally wrong way. We need to limit climate change. We need to in my
view address mitigation. I don't think we can shift our effort from mitigation
to adaptation. That would be to invite disaster. And I have said it's tantamount
to genocide if we get that wrong.
KENAN MALIK For years environmentalists have
drummed into us the need to ditch our profligate, low-cost, throw-away lifestyles.
Consume less, pay more, feel the pain has been the message. That message won
official support through the influential Stern Report. In October 2006 Sir
Nicholas Stern, a former World Bank Chief Economist, produced the most comprehensive
review ever carried out on the economic challenges of climate change. It's
become the Bible for mitigationists.
DIMITRI ZHENGHALIS The Stern Review was effectively
aimed at trying to assess both the impacts of climate change and the cost
of dealing with climate change.
KENAN MALIK Government economist Dimitri Zhenghalis,
author of the mitigation section of the Stern Report.
DIMITRI ZHENGHALIS What we found effectively
was that the costs of action are significantly lower than the costs of inaction.
However you try to quantify them, the case for action on climate change we
found was compelling. What the science does tell us - is that if we do carry
on as we are, we will probably reach levels of greenhouse gas concentrations
by the next century, which gives us at least an even-stevens chance of having
temperatures rise by five degrees or more. Humanity has never experienced
anything like that. The last time we saw a five degrees warming relative to
present levels was about fifty million years ago in the Eocene period when
there were alligators close to the Poles and the world was dominated by swampy
forest. It is inconceivable that the physical and human geography of the planet
wouldn't be changed in such a way as to cause substantial problems and incur
huge costs.
KENAN MALIK What kind of carbon emission reduction
are you looking for?
DIMITRI ZHENGHALIS We found that in order both
to try and secure a likely probability that we can avoid the most dangerous
aspects of climate change you would want to stabilize at somewhere below 550
parts of a million CO2 equivalent. That means that for most of
the world, you would look for emissions - that's the annual flow into the
stock of greenhouse gases - to fall by something like 50% relative to 2000
values by the middle of this century. And the earth can only absorb about
5 to 10 gigatonnes of CO2 a year. We're currently emitting 40,
and by the middle of the century we're looking to go towards 80. So it's an
ambitious challenge, but it can be done.
KENAN MALIK The Stern Report came after years
of campaigning from environmental groups to force governments to take action
over climate change. The only way to safeguard the future of the planet, the
activists argued, was to reduce radically the amount of carbon dioxide released
into the atmosphere. And this would only happen if every industrialised nation
made huge cuts in energy consumption and if every individual drastically changed
their lifestyles. Many Greens think that the Stern Report actually underestimates
the reductions we need in carbon emissions. The writer and environmental activist
Mark Lynas.
MARK LYNAS I think essentially what we need
to be aiming for is to go zero carbon, so there's obviously an endless debate
in the UK about whether we need to be 60%, 80%, whatever. I think basically
it needs to be 100% and probably higher than that. We need to be talking about
actually removing the accumulated carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which
is going to drive warming up to dangerous levels. I think we need to be going
zero carbon and beyond if we’re to stabilize the climate at a safe level.
KENAN MALIK Whether it's 60%, 80% or 100% -
the emerging consensus is that we need drastic cuts in carbon emissions. The
reports of the IPCC, the main scientific body investigating global warming;
the Kyoto Protocol; and the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Bali
last year all concur. They have all been dominated by the idea that only way
to combat global warming is through drastic reductions in CO2 emissions.
And the consequences of not doing this? Global catastrophe and the end of
civilisation as we know it.
But now a new breed of thinkers is emerging to challenge this conventional
- not to say gloomy - wisdom. The Stern Report, they say, far from underestimating
the problem, exaggerated it, by taking the most pessimistic assumptions and
the worst-case scenarios. The economist Richard Tol, who we'll hear from later
in the programme, suggested that if one of his students had presented the
Stern report as a course essay, he'd have been failed for making basic economic
mistakes. This new school do not deny the reality of climate change. But they
do question current policies to combat it - in particular the focus on mitigation.
A low carbon economy would be good but it also has its costs. It may be far
more effective, they suggest, to stop fighting climate change and instead
adapt to it. Roger Pielke is a climate policy expert at the University of
Colorado in Boulder.
ROGER PIELKE Adaptation is something that human
beings have been doing on Planet Earth ever since we evolved from apes into
humans, and even before perhaps. Adaptation means we take steps to reduce
the negative impacts of climate on human activities and to take advantage
of the positive aspects. So, for example, when we build farms, factories,
shipping ports and so on, we do so in recognition that our choices of where
we build them and place them are to take advantage of the climate system.
When we build buildings in areas exposed to floods, hurricanes, other storms,
we build them in specific ways to reduce the impacts when those extreme events
occur. We are talking about taking steps to make ourselves more resilient
or robust to an uncertain future. Adaptation involves steps that we can take
today and which will have impacts tomorrow. If you're concerned about flood
impacts in Great Britain, there's many steps that can be taken to affect outcomes
the next time the floods happen to occur. Mitigation involves steps that we
take in the short-term, but their effects on the climate system necessarily
won't be realised for many decades.
KENAN MALIK Mitigation, in other words, is a
long term process. Even if all human activity ceased tomorrow, so there were
no man-made carbon emissions, it would still take decades before we noticed
lower temperatures. The world is going to get warmer whatever we do now. So
we have no choice but to adapt. But, Professor Pielke argues, adaptation should
not be seen as something that humans have been pushed into by climate change.
It's something we've always done. Climates are naturally variable, and humans
have always responded to the challenge, being quite capable of living both
in the Sahara and in Siberia. Rather than be obsessed or frightened by climate
change, we should just get on with the job of dealing with it. Professor Richard
Tol, an economist at the Economic and Social Research Institute in Dublin,
agrees.
RICHARD TOL There's a whole lot we can do against
the impacts of climate change apart from mitigation. Impacts of climate change
are very many and very complex, so you can't just talk about adaptation to
climate change but you really need to split it down by sector. And sea level
rise is a good example where besides greenhouse gas emission reduction, you
can build dykes, you can build levees, you can build sea walls, and you can
gradually retreat from the coast. There's a whole range of other options that
one can take.
KENAN MALIK The trouble is, says Roger Pielke,
international policies on climate change actually prevent countries from taking
adaptive steps.
ROGER PIELKE Let's say you are in a developing
country where you experience the impacts of floods or typhoons and you experience
impacts and you want to get international aid for it. Under the International
Climate Convention, in order for that aid to be provided you have to show
that the impacts you experience can be traced to greenhouse gas emissions
from climate. It's not sufficient to show that there were many, perhaps thousands
of people who died, and tremendous economic loss. You have to separate out
climate change from somehow normal climate variability. In practice, this
is an almost impossible test to do.
KENAN MALIK So are you suggesting that our concern
or even obsession with climate change is distorting the kinds of infrastructure,
say, that poorer countries are able to build?
ROGER PIELKE In some ways, yes. Under the Kyoto
Protocol and its parent body, the Framework Convention on Climate Change,
climate change is defined only as those changes that result from the human
emission of greenhouse gases - so if perhaps the sun were to get a bit brighter
tonight while we're all sleeping and we wake up tomorrow and there's massive
climate changes or ocean circulation has changed for some reason, those are
not considered climate changes. So under the Kyoto Protocol, the focus is
only on those changes from greenhouse gases. The climate disasters and events
that might occur through natural variability are off the table. So what this
means is that better adaptation to climate is also off the table. So by definition,
the Kyoto Protocol focuses our attention away from the sort of strategies
that make sense in any kind of sustainable development context and back onto
mitigation.
KENAN MALIK The debate about how best to combat
climate change is perhaps most bitterly contested when it comes to its impact
on developing countries like Bangladesh - countries that are most vulnerable
to the ravages of global warming. Richard Tol believes that the policies the
international community has so far adopted - namely mitigation - may have
the same effect on poor countries as locking the door on someone in a sauna.
RICHARD TOL Stringent greenhouse gas emission
reduction would be expensive to implement, would slow down economic growth
in the countries that do that - say the countries of Europe. As a result,
these countries will import less from developing countries, which as a result
those developing countries would grow less fast than they otherwise would
and then they have simply less money to spend on their primary and secondary
healthcare and as a result diseases like malaria and diarrhoea would increase.
What we see at the moment is that a lot of money is flowing towards mitigation,
whereas spending that money on adaptation would be money better spent and
would save lives.
KENAN MALIK When you say a lot of money is flowing
towards mitigation, do you have any idea of the proportion that's going towards
mitigation as opposed to going to adaptation?
RICHARD TOL I would think that for every pound
that is spent on mitigation, a penny is spent on adaptation.
KENAN MALIK That little?
RICHARD TOL Yeah.
KENAN MALIK Is it a kind of zero sum game -
that the more money spent on mitigation means less money spent on adaptation?
RICHARD TOL By and large, yes. I mean we have
only so much income and we can spend every pound only once.
KENAN MALIK When you talk to policymakers, what
would you say to them about what they should be thinking about in relation
to climate change and how they should spend either on mitigation or on adaptation?
RICHARD TOL I think at the moment the most important
message is that mitigation takes away money from development aid and takes
away money from economic growth. And I think that actually stands a good chance
of increasing the impacts of climate change rather than reducing it. At the
moment a lot of emissions are reduced through the so-called Clean Development
Mechanism. That is, Europe pays countries such as China and India to reduce
their emissions. If you look at where the money that is being spent on the
Clean Development Mechanism comes from, then most of it actually comes directly
from the official development aid budget and that means that essentially we're
taking away money from the poor countries to give to the poor countries, but
rather than spending it on development that is important to them, we're spending
it on an issue like climate change that is important to us.
KENAN MALIK For Richard Tol and Roger Pielke,
throwing everything at reducing carbon emissions is to condemn poorer countries
to watch helplessly as the waters rise and the deserts creep forward. For
environmental activists on the other hand, the idea that we should accept
a warmer world and adapt to it is both unrealistic and immoral. It ignores
humans' impact on other species. And even when it comes to humanity, Tim Flannery
says, the adaptationists haven't thought through their arguments.
TIM FLANNERY I'd simply ask them what they think
they're adapting to. And if they can predict the future and look in their
crystal ball and tell me that sea levels will only rise by ten centimetres
or twenty centimetres or fifty centimetres, well that’d be fine. But
the truth is none of us know, none of us can predict the future. And you know
when an investor comes to me and says, 'We're making a water front property
development here. I want you to tell me how much leeway I have to leave to
allow for rising sea levels over the next fifty years', there's no way anyone
on earth can tell that developer that. It's very expensive often to provide
that leeway and the difference in providing a ten centimetre leeway or a fifty
centimetre leeway is very substantial indeed. And you know if you opt for
the ten centimetre option, you may have wasted all your money if sea level
rise turns out to be more rapid than the current models are suggesting. So
that's the key issue that I have with adaptation.
KENAN MALIK You've talked about adaptation as
a form of genocide, haven't you?
TIM FLANNERY I have and the reason I have done
that is because the extent to which any of us can adapt is directly related
to our economic heft. So, for example, the Netherlands may be able to pay
for large dyking infrastructure in the face of rising sea levels and we could
call that a form of adaptation. The people of Bangladesh - there is no way
they could pay for that sort of large scale infrastructure that's required.
And Bangladesh and the Netherlands are equally vulnerable to sea level rise.
You know there's ten million people living within one metre of sea level in
Bangladesh. So you know unless you move forward with that sense of reality
in your mind, what you're doing is putting the lives of probably millions
of people at risk.
KENAN MALIK The economist Dimitri Zenghalis - one
of the authors of the Stern Report - has another objection. Adaptation, he
says, rests on the assumption that the world will continue getting richer,
so that we have the resources to adapt. But that assumption is wrong.
DIMITRI ZENGHALIS As we become richer, it is
certainly true that we will become more able to adapt, our vulnerabilities
will reduce. It's important to note that not everyone will be richer in the
future and there is always a mass of people who are at the poorest end, who
are hardest hit by these impacts. I don't think you'd be doing Bangladesh
a favour by saying 'Let's just carry on emitting as we are and you'll be,
by the way, underwater probably within fifty to a hundred years, but we're
going to give you quite a lot of money now to help your more pressing concerns'.
It's important to recognise that across the spectrum of impacts on climate
change, the actual costs of adaptation do not just rise in proportion to the
degree of global warming; they rise much faster. So, for example, think of
water levels either through floods or sea levels. Water levels rise by a certain
amount. You can start taking some small flood defence measures, you can pay
for higher insurance to insure your house. They rise by that same amount again
because of a little bit more global warming - you really have to beef up your
levees and build up your flood defences. They rise by the same amount again
and actually it pays to completely move the community. There is serious talk
in the Netherlands about stopping pumping and shifting millions of people.
There is a grave risk of tens, maybe hundreds of millions of people in Bangladesh
having to move. That impact increases, as you can see very obviously, more
than proportionately to the degree of global warming. So the cost of adaptation
does not rise in a linear manner. The costs rise much more than proportionately
with the temperatures. So not doing something about mitigation runs the risk
of very, very high costs of adaptation further down the line.
KENAN MALIK For many environmental activists
there's a touch of the Marie Antoinettes about the argument for adaptation.
Telling Bangladesh to build dykes is a bit like telling the poor to eat cake.
Adaptation is unconscionable because it's a rich man's strategy - the poorest
countries simply cannot be able to afford to adapt. But that’s only
because they're being held back by current policies, responds Richard Tol.
Stop pouring resources into mitigation and even the poorest might be able
to build dykes – and probably eat cake, too.
RICHARD TOL The impact of sea level rise in
Bangladesh is by and large a problem of poverty. There's other countries in
the world that are in a very similar geophysical situation as Bangladesh is
- that is a very low-lying delta very vulnerable to sea level rise - but other
countries can cope because they are much richer and they have much better
developed technology. The Netherlands is below sea level for two thirds of
the country and the approach is one of adaptation that is large scale engineering.
So if the Bangladeshi economy grows less fast and that means that they have
less money themselves for building dykes.
KENAN MALIK The debate about the relative merits
of adaptation and mitigation has only just begun and is likely to dominate
policymaking on climate change over the next decade. But why has this debate
only just begun? Why have policy makers till now talked almost exclusively
about the need to reduce our carbon emissions, ignoring the issue of adaptation?
Indeed, why do they still do so? Joan Ruddock.
JOAN RUDDOCK I think there's no doubt that the
climate change debate has been led by the international scientific bodies
and what they’ve told us is that it's imperative that we reduce our
emissions and so everyone has been engaged in doing that. I think that's entirely
understandable. But what we now know is that even if we were to end all our
emissions today, we've still got thirty to forty years of temperature rises
and probably a hundred years of sea level rises built in, so adaptation has
now become as important to us as mitigation. But I think it's understandable
the way in which the debate has developed and that has obviously resulted
in the government itself having had a priority on mitigation. But we have
now absorbed the information that we have and we know how
important it is, and I think also people see that climate change is underway.
So we have got adaptation up there with mitigation.
KENAN MALIK Isn't it partly also because mitigation
is about changing individual behaviour? Whereas adaptation is about collective
social action, the kinds of scientific technological innovation that you might
need to meet the challenges not just of climate change but more broadly about
the kind of climate variability that we might face. And to a large extent
governments are more willing to talk about individuals changing their behaviour
than about the kind of broader social changes that we might need.
JOAN RUDDOCK I think both mitigation and adaptation
are equally dependent on everyone and every sector taking their own actions.
So, for example, where it comes to mitigation, one of the most important things
we can do is to deal with major infrastructure questions such as energy production
coming from low or no carbon sources. That's very much a government priority
which has got to involve business and industry. Of course we want individual
actions as well on mitigation, but in terms of adaptation again both government,
business, industry and individuals all have to play their part. So I don't
think that there are any significant differences in approach between mitigation
and adaptation, but simply that mitigation and the discussion of that has
been well ahead of adaptation.
KENAN MALIK In Joan Ruddock's eyes policy must
make room for both adaptation and mitigation, and for both individual action
and collective change. This seems to be a significant shift in official thinking.
But does this mean that the government will now heavily invest in and promote
investment in new green technologies that will both reduce carbon emissions
and allow us to live with a warmer world? So far, public policy has focused
almost entirely on mitigation. So what's its record on innovation here? Pretty
appalling says James Woudhuysen, Professor of Forecasting and Innovation at
De Montfort University. There's more hot air coming out of government ministries
than all the coal fired power stations in China.
JAMES WOUDHUYSEN I think the record is lamentable.
You know what we ought to be talking about is a high innovation economy. There's
been very little really major innovations in energy. If you look at energy
R&D, for example, it's in the same shoddy state as energy investment.
We've lost sight of the supply side and innovation. We're not interested in
laboratories the way we were. I think if you really look at the evidence,
you'll find that human beings have had the most important effect in both warning
the planet and dimming the planet. And the striking thing about that is we
did all of that unintentionally. We did it all inadvertently. Think what we
could do intentionally and advertently. I think what we
really need now is not just learning to live with the problem of climate change,
but we need a much more human-centred view of our relationship to the environment.
Learning to live with climate change isn't enough. We've got to take control
of nature much more. It's a programme of transformation rather than just adapting.
KENAN MALIK So perhaps the real debate is not
between mitigation and adaptation but between stagnation and innovation. Given
proper large-scale industrial investment we could have both a low carbon energy
supply and high-tech adaptations to a warmer world. Proper investment would
allow us to mitigate - develop new technologies, from renewables to nuclear,
that move us away from a reliance on traditional fossil fuels without having
to cut back on individual consumption or economic growth. And that in turn
would give us the resources to build the infrastructure we need to adapt to
a changing climate - sea defences, irrigation systems, health innovations
to battle malaria. But this requires us to think not small and local, as so
far we've been urged to do by climate change activists, but big and industrial.
And if we do, it might even solve the problem of guilt at leaving the TV on
standby. James Woudhuysen.
JAMES WOUDHUYSEN Consciousness applied to today's
production of energy would make the biggest difference. The more thoughtful
we are in energy supply, the more thoughtless we can be - thank god - in energy
use. You know we can do the washing up without looking at the meter all the
time. We can actually think or read a book. You know we can get a life instead
of worrying about our carbon footprint all the time. So let's get thoughtful
about the next thirty or fifty years of energy supply.
KENAN MALIK A guilt-free, low carbon, high-tech
economy. Seems too good to be true. But perhaps it's no more unimaginable
than the idea of the Swiss Riviera. And if the Swiss can plan for the future,
why can't we? So here's to that zero carbon pina colada on the sun-drenched
slopes of the Matterhorn.